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CIA Confesses
to Kennedy Assassination
Excerpts from Fatal Rebirth,with
commentary
A Feral House Book by H. Michael
Sweeney
Copyright (c) 1997 - All rights
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Note: A lot of good people
have spent decades chasing after an elusive and fragmented truth with respect
to the JFK assassination. Most of them have earned only scorn and name
calling as 'conspiracy buffs' or 'conspiracy theorists' by media and government
disinformation resources. Many of them continue today without knowledge
that the truth has largely been admitted by the group responsible. Many
of the conspiracy hunters have been vindicated, while others still search
in hopes of that 'smoking gun.' But what better smoking gun than a confession?
And we have one! Read it here! It is now time to seek to go beyond JFK
as far as wrestling with the various conspiracy theories. There is no need
to waste energy there. There are now bigger questions to ask.
JFK died for a reason. The
gunmen that pulled the trigger are nothing more than the extension of a
greater unseen power, a power with the motive. Cracking that is where I
would suggest your efforts should turn next -- instead of making/defending
the many alternative theories as to who did the deed itself (though some
names are not yet known, and other names, like Bush, need more concrete
ties drawn). Who did it is visible, who directed and who ordered them to
do it, is less visible -- though their shimmering form can be seen and
seems to be firming up.
Take the trail to the the Three
and Five "I"s, being careful to avoid the false leads suggesting they
refer to the identities of Permindex, Division Five,
American
Council of Christian Churches, the Solidarists, and DISC.
There are connections between the two assassinated Kennedys that are so
ironic as to exceed the Greek tragedies. Go back to square one to the formation
of OSS/CIA Follow the money from there forward. Remember: "The fascists
are coming.". If you know what a fascist is... you know what an elitist
is... you know what a globalist is...
You might also ask: If CIA
were to undertake an assassination of an American President (or anyone
else), would not they lay careful contingency plans? What plan would they
make for it going completely wrong, and blame coming back to Langley? How
would they survive the public wrath had the media known and published the
truth in '64 instead of publishing the Warren Commission?
The answer is a secret CIA
within CIA (Shadow), one able to operate on its own infrastructure,
and able to fund its own way through crime. Should Langley die, CIA would
survive, but completely invisible and free of government oversight -- something
that might eventually be better for dark deeds than having CIA In fact,
it might even explain why CIA is willing to expose itself to the JFK noose
at this time: Shadow may well be fully prepared to replace CIA today. If
such a thing as Shadow were to exist, what would it look like and do? The
answer just might be the history since Kennedy (both history perceived
through media filters and the reality of hidden truths behind the headlines),
which can be expressed in oversimplified math, a math which some may not
understand:
U2 + Lee Oswald = neutering
of Ike; 40 + 40 + 40 = death of Camelot; Vietnam + Tonkin = Asian drug
supply; Robert Vesco + Nugan Hand = financial superstructure; Langley -
proprietaries being disbanded = infrastructure (free of congressional oversight);
Watergate + 5 Break Ins = Assassination of Nixon; Paisley "murder" + Bush
= CIA purge (freeing agents for insertion into public sector and segregating
agents by loyalties); War on Drugs = South American drug supply; MK-ULTRA/Artichoke
+ Cult Awareness Network = RFK (and more, including Jones Town and Waco);
METC UNIT = WTC, OK; Evergreen + Gordon's = Orange shipments (capable of
producing two kinds of highs); NSA + Clipper/Chipper = NRO in every home;
Iran/Contra + Bush/Secord = Lockerbee; CFR + Trilateral Commission = Secret
Government; LEA + NIA = In-place assets, Liddy Institute; Ingram + BR Fox
= Offshore Murder, Inc. Arms Supply; ADL + B'nai Brith + CIA + Law Enforcement
= Networking spy data on American Citizens; Media + CIA = Reuters, K. Graham,
Time-Warner, CBS, Hilton Knowles and the rest; and I think I had better
stop because I'm bound to have made enough enemies already or tossed out
more than you care to consider, anyway. These are some of the things we
discuss in our Group -- the greater issue of the war at hand, not just
one lost battle in 1963.
Enough food for thought --
here is the post from the CIA news group. Be warned, however, that I have
already had comment from CIA apologists who have been attacking this material
for years by use of the 25
Rules of Disinformation (variants on misdirection, confusion, non-logic
logic, disinformation, disparaging attacks on sources, and so forth), and
they are well prepared to use their arguments on you. Should you be unprepared
to deal with the trickery of their non-arguments, just ask two questions
of them when they do -- and they must wither away. If there are any better
confessions from other sources out there, where are they (can they provide
an alternative conclusion with better credentials -- or are they just attacking
this one)? In absence of other officious proofs, why do they try so hard
to destroy this one? Know your enemy by their actions.
CIA Confesses to Kennedy
Assassination
Trial Testimony by Deposition
Under Oath of CIA agent Marita Lorenz
From the Defamation Trial
of E. Howard Hunt vs. Liberty Lobby
United States District Court
for Southern District of Florida, January 1985
What follows is the ultimate
indictment of E. Howard Hunt and other Operation 40 CIA (AKA
Operation
Zapata, AKA Bay of Pigs Invasion) agents for the murder of John
Kennedy. That not one media representative present at the trial dared print
a single word indicts media as being Shadow controlled. That this same
testimony was given to FBI within days of the assassination is an indictment
of the
Justice Department as being Shadow controlled. That the judge
presiding over the trial did not order follow-up investigation or indictments
for murder is an indictment of the court system as being Shadow controlled.
That the same testimony was given the Rockefeller Commission (CFR/Bilderberger/TriLateralist)
House
Select Committee on Assassinations and nothing was done with the information
is an indictment of Congressional oversight as being Shadow controlled.
Beyond the virtual confession,
it is clear that what is taking place here is that CIA (not only by virtue
of the testimony, but also by virtue of cross questioning directed by CIA
provided defense lawyers which seemed deliberately designed to maximize
damage and bring out the facts) is hanging Hunt and select other CIA out
to dry, 'twisting in the wind'. This is likely a means of neutralizing
and punishing Hunt for his blackmail of CIA -- a move made safer by virtue
of having captured the cartons of evidence from flight 553 after its 'crash'
on schedule and on target where 50 'FBI agents' awaited it (a grand conspiracy
worthy of further investigation on its own right - start with Big Brother
and the Holding Company).
I strongly suggest you read
Mark Lane's chilling work, Plausible Denial, from which this material
was first made public.
Note commercial plug>: Shadow
is this author's name for what Daniel Sheenan of the Christic Institute
describes as the
Secret Team, those elements of CIA and the military-industrial-intelligence-media
complex which seek to serve an agenda other than national security. Shadow
is the central villain in Fatal Rebirth, a prophetic glimpse of
what lies ahead based on the revelations of the would-be secret past --
with over 500 foot notes and an Appendix section which is itself book sized.
Fatal
Rebirth was born amid a 007 adventure forced on the author when he
came into possession of a document someone in the intelligence world took
strong exception to -- a document detailing many sins of intel and their
true masters within the secret government. Analysis and investigation was
undertaken in self defense, an effort soon joined by several former intel
operatives and at least one 'Deep Throat' from within the enemy camp. This
revealed much about who and why, and provided the puzzle pieces needed
to make sense of it all. Publisher interest welcomed. <end of commercial
plug>.
Deposition as follows:
Q. What is your present employment?
A. I do undercover work for
an intelligence agency.
Q. Are you permitted to discuss
the nature of that work, or where you work?
A. I am not.
Q. Is it also true that, as
I have stipulated, you do not wish to give your home address?
A. No, I do not.
Q. Have you been employed by
the Central Intelligence Agency?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you at liberty to discuss
the details of that employment?
A. No.
Q. Have you been employed by
the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you at liberty to discuss
that?
A. No.
Q. Have you been employed by
the New York Police Department?
A. Yes.
Q. Was that intelligence work?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you at liberty to discuss
the details of that work?
A. No.
Q. During 1978, did you appear
as a witness before the United States House of Representatives Select Committee
on Assassinations?
A. Yes.
Q. Was that in relation to
the assassination of President John F. Kennedy?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you appear as a witness
after the chief judge of the United States district court of Washington
had signed an offer conferring immunity upon you and compelling you to
testify?
A. Yes.
Q. During and prior to November
1963, did you live in Miami, Florida?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. I want you to understand,
if I ask you any question which you are not permitted to answer, you may
of course say that, but I will try, based on my previous interview with
you, to just ask you questions which you can answer.
A. Yes.
Q. During and before November
of 1963, did you work on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency in the
Miami area?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you work with a man
named Frank Sturgis, while you were working for the CIA?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Was that in Miami, during
and prior to November 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. What other names, to your
knowledge, is Frank Sturgis known by?
A. Frank Fiorini, Hamilton,
the last name, Hamilton. F-I-O-R-I-N-I.
Q. Was Mr. Fiorini or Mr. Sturgis,
while you worked with him, also employed by the Central Intelligence Agency?
A. Yes.
Q. During that time were payments
made to Mr. Sturgis for the work he was doing for the CIA?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you ever witness anyone
make payments to him for the CIA work which you and Mr. Sturgis were both
involved in?
A. Yes.
Q. Who did you witness make
payments to Mr. Sturgis?
A. A man by the name of Eduardo.
Q. Who is Eduardo?
A. That is his code name, the
real name is E. Howard Hunt.
Q. Did you know him and meet
him during and prior to November 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you witness payments
made by Mr. Hunt to Mr. Sturgis or Mr. Fiorini on more than one occasion
prior to November of 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you go on a trip with
Mr. Sturgis from Miami during November of 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. Was anyone else present
with you when you went on that trip?
A. Yes.
Q. What method of transportation
did you use?
A. By car.
Q. Was there one or more cars?
A. There was a follow-up car.
Q. Does that mean two cars?
A. Backup: yes.
Q. What was in the follow-up
car, if you know?
A. Weapons.
Q. Without asking you any of
the details regarding the activity that you and Mr. Sturgis and Mr. Hunt
were involved in, may I ask you is some of that activity was related to
the transportation of weapons?
A. Yes.
Q. Did Mr. Hunt pay Mr. Sturgis
sums of money for activity related to the transportation of weapons?
A. Yes.
Q. Did Mr. Sturgis tell you
where you would be going from Miami, Florida, during November of 1963,
prior to the time that you traveled with him in the car?
A. Dallas, Texas.
Q. He told you that?
A. Yes.
Q. Did he tell you the purpose
of the trip to Dallas, Texas?
A. No; he said it was confidential.
Q. Did you arrive in Dallas
during November of 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. After you arrived in Dallas,
did you stay at any accommodations there?
A. Motel.
Q. While you were at that motel,
did you meet anyone other than those who were in the party traveling with
you from Miami to Dallas?
A. Yes.
Q. Who did you meet?
A. E. Howard Hunt.
Q. Was there anyone else who
you saw or met other than Mr. Hunt?
A. Excuse me?
Q. Other than those?
A. Jack Ruby.
Q. Tell me the circumstance
regarding your seeing E. Howard Hunt in Dallas in November
of 1963?
A. There was a prearranged
meeting that E. Howard Hunt deliver us sums of money for the so-called
operation that I did not know its nature.
Q. Were you told what your
role was to be?
A. Just a decoy at the time.
Q. Did you see Mr. Hunt actually
deliver money to anyone in the motel room which you were present in?
A. Yes.
Q. To whom did you see him
deliver the money?
A. He gave an envelope of cash
to Frank Fiorini.
Q. When he gave him the envelope,
was the cash visible as he had it in the envelope?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you have a chance to
see the cash after the envelope was given to Mr. Fiorini?
A. Frank pulled out the money
and flipped it and counted it and said "that is enough" and put it in his
jacket.
Q. How long did Mr. Hunt remain
in the room?
A. About forty-five minutes.
Q. Did anyone else enter the
room other than you, Mr. Fiorini, Mr. Hunt, and others who may have been
there before Mr. Hunt arrived?
A. No.
Q. Where did you see the person
you identified as Jack Ruby?
A. After Eduardo left, a fellow
came to the door and it was Jack Ruby, about an hour later, forty-five
minutes to an hour later.
Q. When you say Eduardo, who
are you referring to?
A. E. Howard Hunt.
Q. When did that meeting take
place in terms of the hour; was it daytime or nighttime?
A. Early evening.
Q. How soon after that evening
meeting took place did you leave Dallas?
A. I left about two hours later;
Frank took me to the airport and we went back to Miami.
Q. Now, can you tell us in
relationship to the day that President Kennedy was killed, when this meeting
took place?
A. The day before.
Q. Is it your testimony that
the meeting which you just described with Mr. Hunt making the payment of
money to Mr. Sturgis took place on November 21, 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. When was the first time
that you met me?
A. In 1977.
Q. On that occasion, did you
tell me in words or substance exactly the same thing that you have testified
to today?
A. Yes.
Q. Two days after President
Kennedy was assassinated, that is on November 24, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald,
who was arrested and charged with the assassination of President Kennedy
and the murder of police officer J.D. Tippit, was killed in Dallas by a
man named Jack Ruby?
A. Yes.
Q. On that occasion and subsequent
to that time, did you see pictures of Jack Ruby in the newspaper and did
you see Jack Ruby on television?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Is it your testimony that
the man who killed Lee Harvey Oswald is, to the best
of your ability to identify
him, the person who was in the room in the motel in Dallas the night before
the president was killed?
A. Yes.
Q. Had you ever seen Jack Ruby
before November 21, 1963?
A. No.
Cross Examination to follow. Note:
According to Liberty Lobby lawyer, Mark Lane, Lorenz had confided outside
of testimony that she got out of Dallas quickly because 'I knew that this
was different from other jobs. This was not just gun running. This was
big, very big, and I wanted to get out. I told Sturgis I wanted to leave.
He said it was a very big operation but that my part was not dangerous.
I was to be a decoy. Before he could go further, I said please let me get
out. I want to go back to my baby in Miami. Finally he agreed and drove
me to the airport.' She further stated she would not reveal the names of
others in the cars going to Dallas because 'They killed Kennedy. I don't
want to be the one to reveal their names; it's too dangerous.'
However, it would seem apparent
that perhaps the agency no longer wished to provide Hunt with any level
of protection -- perhaps because they did not like being blackmailed. The
evidence for this conclusion lies in the additional information volunteered
during cross examination which Mark Lane was unable to obtain himself,
directly. Since Lorenz had been coached by CIA council (on what Agency
would permit her to say) who also worked with Hunt's CIA sponsored council,
it would appear that perhaps the CIA' vested interest was actually working
against their 'client', Hunt, rather than for him. In fact, Hunt's whole
problem of being accused of being in Dallas surfaced only because former
CIA agent Victor Marchetti claimed in 1978 Hunt was in Dallas and
Liberty Lobby dared to publish the story. As you read, note how both the
lawyer and Lorenz tend to volunteer or bring out information more than
called for, and how nothing in the cross examination aids the defense or
nullifies earlier testimony. Defense would have been better off not to
challenge the witness. It would seem a deliberate confession.
It should also be pointed out
that Lorenz says she was inducted into CIA in 1959, and that apparently
she and Frank Sturgis worked together early on -- suggesting that even
when she was supposedly working for the New York Police Department
and the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration). If true, this would
make her and Sturgis illegal in-place CIA operatives within the DEA and
NYPD -- likely working under CIA Operation Phoenix assassin king,
Lou
Conein (founding leader of DEA), to help eliminate drug lords not under
CIA control or being supplied by CIA, and to protect CIA conduits and suppliers,
the true purpose of the 'War on Drugs'.
Transcript continues:
Q. Is it your testimony today,
that today's testimony is consistent with what you said before the House
Select Committee?
A. That's right.
Q. When was the first time
you met Howard Hunt?
A. 1960, in Miami, Florid
A.
Q. How was he identified to
you?
A. Introduced. Introduced as
Eduardo.
Q. How do you spell that?
A. E-D-U-A-R-D-O, Eduardo,
E-D-U-A-R-D-O. He was to finance the operations in Miami.
Q. What language did he speak
to you in?
A. English and Spanish.
Q. English and Spanish?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you speak Spanish?
A. Yes.
Q. Any other languages?
A. German.
Q. When is it that you became
aware that this person you know as Eduardo was E. Howard Hunt?
A. About the same time. Eduardo
was the name we were to refer to him as, when discussing things.
Q. Who did you believe he was
working for at that time?
A. CIA.
Q. Why?
Note: Portions of testimony
were compressed at this point by Mark Lane in order to make a particular
point. Liberty is taken here to represent it as faithfully as possible
to his description without having to quote several pages of his work. Please
see
Plausible Denial for the full story. Normal transcript follows
after this summary of combined answers.
A. Because we were
all at that time CIA members of Operation 40. We had been given instructions
from Eduardo and had certain rights and permissions to do things that the
average citizen could not do... I will tell you what is on record. I stole
secrets from Cuba... I was trained to kill. Anything else?
Normal transcript resumes:
Q. Please provide at least
one additional name of a person accompanying you in the car trip to Dallas
in November.
A. The other one was Jerry
Patrick --
Q. Jerry Patrick?
A. Hemming.
Q. Is that, H-E-M-M-I-N-G?
A. Yes. Two Cuban brothers
named Novis and a pilot named Pedro Diaz Lanz were also in the caravan.
Q. Did you see the weapons
in the second car?
A. Yes.
Q. What kind of weapons were
there?
A. Handguns and automatics.
Q. Could you identify for me
today what kind of guns they were, specifically?
A. Rifles; there were cases
of machine guns, rifles, thirty-eights, forty-fives.
Q. Have you been trained in
firearms?
A. Yes.
Q. What were the kind of rifles
that were there?
A. M-16s. M-1s, shotguns; several.
Q. There were machine guns?
A. Yes.
Q. In your work for the CIA
Operation 40, was that one of the major tasks you undertook was to transport
guns?
A. Yes.
Q. Was that for the anti-Cuba
activities?
A. Yes, it was.
Q. What happened to those guns
when you got to Dallas?
A. They were in the other car
and I presume they took them to the motel the next day, the next night.
A lot of things they carried in.
Q. Where did you leave from?
A. From the house in Miami.
Q. Is that a CIA house?
A. A safe house. Yes.
Q. Did everyone meet at the
same place?
A. Yes.
Q. Who else was at the house,
besides the seven people you identified?
A. This fellow is incarcerated;
it is not fair to answer. Another fellow is dead.
Q. Incarcerated where?
A. Out of the country, right
now, Venezuela somewhere.
Q. Is his name Bosch?
A. Yes.
Q. What is his first name?
A. Orlando.
Q. Was he one of the anti-Castro
Cubans involved in Operation 40?
A. Yes.
Q. Isn't that a matter of public
record?
A. Yes.
Q. Who was the person at the
house that is now deceased?
A. Alexander Rorke, Jr.
Q. Is he a CIA employee?
A. Yes.
Q. What did you do after you
got to New York and found out that President Kennedy was just assassinated
in Dallas?
A. Talked to the FBI.
Q. You talked to the FBI?
A. Yes.
Q. Voluntarily?
A. They wanted to talk to me
anyway about certain things with my child's father and they picked me up
and took me to the office.
Q. What day would that have
been?
A. A few days after I arrived,
after everyone got over the initial shock.
Q. It would be some time in
the month of November of 1963?
A. Yes.
Q. In your discussions with
the FBI, they inquired about your activities which related to Dallas and
this group of seven people that took the car trip?
A. Well, they discussed my
associates down there and my relationship with my daughter's father, mostly.
Q Did they know the names of
the people you took the car trip with, from Miami to Dallas?
A. Yes.
Q. Did they ask you about each
of those people?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you tell them about
the guns and money and about Eduardo?
A. Yes.
Q. I will have to start again
because the court reporter cannot take nods down.
A. I was nodding, yes, to each.
Q. What was your answer?
A. They asked me about everything,
my daughter's father, and I am glad I am back up here away from that.
Q. You told them about Eduardo?
A. Yes.
Q. And the guns?
A. They know about all those
associations. They didn't want to go into it. Those were CIA activities,
not FBI.
Q. Did you ever talk with Frank
Sturgis about it, since then?
A. We are not an talking terms,
Frank and I.
Q. That was not my question.
Have you ever talked about it with Frank Sturgis since 1963?
A. Yes.
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